Hilux Lift Kit; what do you need to know?
The Hilux is one of the most popular four wheel drive vehicles on the road today, and for good reason. When you still see 1985 hilux’s driving around you know that they have been well made! Regardless of what model Hilux you own, there can be a lack of clearance (even with the older ones that have a lot of it in their stock form). There are a number of ways in which you can gain more clearance, which I will go into below.
When looking at a lift kit its worth putting some time into researching what is going to suit you best – many people end up spending considerably more on their lift because they don’t look into it enough!
I have learned a lot since purchasing My Hilux, and would like to share that knowledge with you. Upon purchasing My Hilux, my first impression was that a big Hilux Lift Kit was needed to make the vehicle capable off road, but this is not correct. In my opinion, keeping the centre of gravity down is the most important thing to consider when modifying your four wheel drive, so a big lift is not always what you want.
What is a Hilux Lift Kit?
A lift kit refers to one of two things; a body lift or a suspension lift. Both are totally different and should be used to achieve different results. I have explained the difference below.
Types of clearance
The clearance your four wheel drive has comes down to a number of things. In general, the lowest point on every four wheel drive is the diff pumpkins (unless it is independent suspension). The only way to lift this up is to fit larger tyres. Both a body lift and suspension lift will do nothing to increase the clearance of your diff (and ultimately ground clearance), and this is something that a lot of people don’t realize. By fitting larger tyres you lift the diffs, chassis and body off the ground further.
The next thing to know is approach angle, ramp over angle and departure angle. The approach angle is the maximum angle you can drive up without the front of your vehicle touching the terrain. The further forward your front tyres are the better approach angle you have, and also the taller your body is the better angle you have.
This is the same for departure angle (except it is inverse). The ramp over angle refers to the clearance under the middle of your vehicle. If you look side on to your car, you can imagine a triangle from bend the the front wheel to in front of the rear wheel, and the centre underneath. The higher your vehicle sits, the better ramp over angle you have and as a result the larger object that you can drive over without it touching.
Why fit a lift kit?
There are generally only a few reasons to fit a lift kit. The first is to increase clearance. The second is to fit larger tyres, and the third is to make the Hilux look better. A fourth reason is to get better flex out of the suspension (but a big lift is not always required to achieve this).
What I learned very quickly with my Hilux is that there are multiple ways to achieve the same result, which not everyone knows. For example, if you want to fit larger tyres you can either fit a body lift or suspension lift, or you can move the diff forward, cut the guards, hammer them in a little bit or fit extended shackles. Each require a different amount of money and effort, and will achieve very similar results (with some being better than others).
What is the difference between a body lift and suspension lift?
A Body Lift:
A Body lift refers to lifting the body off the chassis of the vehicle. You do this by fitting aluminium, steel or poly blocks in between the chassis and body. The most common body lift kits are 1” or 2” (25 and 50mm) but some people do 3, 4 and even 5”.
A body lift will give you a better approach and departure angle, but not necessarily a better ramp over angle. What you need to remember is that the chassis stays in the same location, meaning it is just as low as it was before. Please note in Western Australia fitting a body lift kit to a vehicle with air bags is illegal (I am unsure about other states).
Advantages of a body lift
– Body lifts are considerably cheaper than suspension lifts, and they won’t wear out over time if done correctly.- The centre of gravity is kept lower as you are only lifting the body and not the whole chassis- It limits the sideways movement as a pose to a bigger suspension lift
Disadvantages of a body lift
– If you have any bar work, most of the time it is attached to the chassis. When you lift the body up on a four wheel drive, the bar work stays in the same position. This means that your bull bar, rear bar and side steps now sit 1” or 2” (depending on how much you lift the body) lower than your body work.
It can be a lot of work modifying the bar work (not to mention the legalities that can be associated with it). It is worth noting though that the older Hilux side steps bolt to the body and not the chassis. – Other modifications may need to be done – gearstick, radiator, fuel line modifications, steering shaft modifications etc.
The body lift on My Hilux
I would like to point out that a body lift kit on the older Hilux’s are relatively simple. I modified the bull bar brackets to suit the lift, and left the rear bar alone to protect the LPG tank. I didn’t need to touch the side steps as they are attached to the body (and consequently came up on their own).
I also needed to loosen and re tighten the steering shaft and bottom radiator hose. However, I didn’t have to do any modifications to my gear sticks, brake lines, radiator and fuel lines. In my situation I just wanted to fit larger tyres without spending too much money, and it has paid off very well.
A Suspension Lift:
A Suspension lift involves lifting the chassis and the body off the diffs. The average suspension lift is in between 1” and 6” but they can get much larger than that. In general the lift is done by replacing the springs, but it can be done by adding extended shackles. A Suspension Lift is considerably more expensive, but is popular for a number of reasons.
The work that is required for each model four wheel drive varies depending on the size of the lift. A 2 inch suspension lift on most Hilux’s is all that is required and will do the job nicely. As soon as you go to 3” or 4” you have to do a number of other modifications which become costly.
A Hilux suspension lift is popular because it is simple, and can often be fitted at home. Most people stick with a 2” suspension lift, which is a good place to start. Another popular combination is a 2” body lift and 2” suspension lift, but in my opinion this is unnecessary in many cases.
Air bag suspension
For those who carry heavy loads (or tow heavy trailers) air bag suspension might be something worth looking into. It is considerably more expensive, but there are limited alternatives. When you put extra weight in or on the back of your car (like a trailer hitch or camping gear) the suspension will sag a little bit.
The amount that it sags depends on how ‘stiff’ the suspension is, but in many cases it will sag too much. In order to compensate this, you can get stiffer springs fitted (which are uncomfortable if you don’t have the vehicle loaded up) and/or fit air bags. These can be pumped up and will lift the vehicle back up to its correct height. It is worth noting that air bag suspension is not cheap!
What are extended shackles?
For all leaf sprung hilux’s, shackles are used at the end of each spring. In stock form, these are quite small. If you want a cheap lift, you can purchase extended shackles. These replace the original ones, and will lift your vehicle 1”, 2”, 3” or 4” depending on the size that you get. You need to be very careful with the angle that these sit at, but 2” extended shackles is a very popular modification.
Fitting longer Shock Absorbers
If you are going to fit a Hilux Lift Kit, a lot of people recommend getting slightly longer shock absorbers than what normally comes in the kit. In general, the shock absorber is the first thing to stop the suspension from flexing to its full amount. By getting slightly longer shock absorbers you remove this from the equation, and usually end up with better flex.
Alternatives to a Hilux Lift Kit
I mentioned earlier on that I prefer to keep my centre of gravity low. A lot of people prefer to cut the guards of their vehicle over fitting a lift. This literally involves taking an angle grinder to the guards, and it works well assuming you know how to do it in a tidy manner! Another popular method to fit larger tyres is to move the front diff forward. This is a relatively easy job on solid axle hilux’s and allows for 35” tyres to run without any lift at all (in the older hilux’s).
Legalities of a Hilux Lift Kit
In my opinion, this is the most overlooked part of fitting a Hilux Lift Kit. In WA, lifting your vehicle over 50mm makes it illegal. This has some serious ramifications; your insurance is void and as a result you are liable for any damage.
You can get an engineer’s certificate (which needs to be accompanied with a lane change test) for lifts up to 150mm but it can get costly very quickly. 50mm equates to either a 2 inch body lift without any bigger tyres, or a 2” bigger set of tyres with a 1 inch body lift.
If you do any modifications to your Hilux, I would strongly advise you check that they are legal, and you notify your insurance company of the changes. If you don’t let them know then they can get out of claims.
When should I fit a Hilux Lift Kit?
It’s not uncommon to see a Hilux purchased and then a lift kit fitted within the first week. I would say you should never fit a Hilux Lift Kit, unless you have a reason to do so. You might find that your Hilux with a decent set of tyres does everything you need it to – why bother lifting it if this is the case? If you need more load carrying ability, more flex or to fit larger tyres then you have a reason.
My recommendation is to drive your Hilux, find out where it lacks (if it does at all) and then modify it to fix those issues.
If you are going to fit a Hilux Lift Kit, think about the other modifications that you want to do. If you plan on fitting bar work (or other heavy items) to your vehicle then you should do that before fitting a lift. If you don’t, you will find your new lift kit will sag under the weight and you will end up having to purchase a new set!
Choosing the right Hilux Lift Kit
There are literally hundreds of kits on the market, ranging from body lift kits through to suspension lift kits, extended shackles, air bag suspension and more. Consider the weight that you carry, the amount of flex that you need, the legalities involved with doing a lift, why you need the lift done, where you are driving and how the vehicle is treated. If you take the time to do a proper lift you will end up saving yourself time, money and energy!
Be aware that lifting your Hilux is not the end of the story. There may be other modifications that need to be done as a result of the lift (like adjusting the headlights as they now sit up higher).
I feel for those that have fitted a Hilux Lift Kit without really looking into it, and have had to pay more money and time to get it rectified (or even worse – they are driving a car that is not lifted correctly and as a result is potentially dangerous). The Hilux is an awesome vehicle, and it will bring you a lot of enjoyment if you set it up correctly.
If you have a Hilux Lift Kit, let me know – I would like to find out what set ups you are running, advantages and disadvantages you have found and general comments. If you have any questions I will do my best to answer them!
Hey Sonnie,
Unfortunately large lifts often cause problems. That said, there’s a few options out there for custom, or high clearance CV boots – PSR sell them, and a few others.
I’d ask on the N80 Facebook groups though, to see what others have had success with before committing to anything
All the best
Aaron
hi aaron,
i have a hilux sr5 2022 n80 , before a shop lifted to 3.5 inch or more, i have got diff drop installed, cvs were broken went to another shop and they put it lower to 2 inch , i had a leak on right they changed it again,same one slipt open , changed it again, now another side has some grease leaking diff side.
tyre size is 285 17 70 33 inch.
i need to sit on 2.5inch and above since i had spent for a 3 inch lift and fitted the necessary kits like upper control arms diff drop etc.
is there any better cv out there that will help if i raise it to 2.7 inch or so please let me know
i am curious to know about better cv and even cv boots if it can be custom ones please need your help on this
much appreciated
Hi Paul,
What do you need the clearance for? You might find some good all terrain or mud terrain tyres does the trick, whilst not touching the suspension at all
All the best
Aaron
Hi Aaron) Thanks for your help for people! May I ask, I have a hilux 2.4 2017, 20% of the ride I will need to drive on bad off-road with loads, I want to put an iron bumper in the front, possibly in the back. I need to increase the clearance and passable, I’m thinking about a 2inch elevator. Wanted to just lift through the spacers in the suspension, but read some bad reviews about spacers above the shock strut. What can you advise me in my situation? I serve the poor people of the Pokot tribe in Kenya. A car with low mileage didn’t want to throw out my native suspension, but use it and then think about replacing it
Hi Stanley,
You’ll fit the 275/65/17 without any body mount chop, and you might even fit the 265/75/17 without a chop too; you should be able to measure it to clarify.
If you go over 50mm increase in tyre size you’ll need engineering, and its worth looking into what size tyres are common, and cheap. No point getting a tyre that is hard to get a variety of tyres in, or that you have to pay a huge amount for.
Honestly, for what you are saying, you would probably get away with a tiny increase in tyre size (the smaller of your two options) in a good quality all terrain or mud terrain, and maybe consider a locker?
I would keep it as mild as possible, and find what you like about the vehicle and don’t, and then modify it from there
All the best
Aaron
Hi Aaron,
I read the whole page, all the way from more than 10 years ago and you’re still here helping people. Very informative explanations, and you are very knowledgeable.
I live in WA, and I have a Hilux 2019 rugged x, just purchased that few months ago. This vehicle is my daily drive to train station for work (5km), and weekend activities going round and about, occasional beach driving, some off-roading but nothing crazy.
I’d like it to be capable of doing off road, but still keeping the handling on road. The factory tyre is 265/65/17, and I am looking at a slightly bigger size AT 275/65/R17 or 265/75/R17. I am planning to get a certified body mount chop from a known workshop, so I can (attempt to) fit the tyres in. I would avoid doing a lift if I can for now. But for long corrugation driving that may come later, I will maybe eventually upgrade the factory suspension to more robust models.
My questions is, for my purpose, is this a good choice of suspension wheel and tyres? can I get away from lifting the vehicle and fit the slight bigger tyre in my hilux?
Hey Lance,
I’d steer clear of body lifts, but I’m not really sure what is needed in terms of clearance. Your best bet would be to ask on the Hilux owners groups on Facebook, as people will have done the same thing as you.
All the best
Aaron
Hi Aaron
I am wanting to put on 285/70/R17 Tyres on my 2016 Hilux, 2.8 diesel, wanting that more aggressive look, only really do beach and dune driving with a little medium terrain 4wd, what would be the best a bodylift or suspension?
Cheers
Lance
Hey Marty,
If you are talking body lifts, you won’t have to change the suspension, but you will have other issues. I don’t recommend them at all.
My advice would be to keep the vehicle as low as possible, whilst fitting some slightly larger tyres, but it really depends on what you want it for. Sometimes its possible to do a body mount chop (which is engineerable), or move the front axle forward a little without touching the lift.
I’d get the vehicle, then the tyres and plan based off the clearance you have left.
All the best
Aaron
Hi mate
Very good write up, thanks.
My question is, which i am having trouble finding good info about, is… I have ordered a new 2021 SR double cab, I want to put the same Wrangler A/Ts I had on my 2018, but I had a lot of rubbing issues (they were only 265/65/r17s). So I want to give it a slight lift, but being a brand new truck I don’t want to butcher it. I am thinking either 2″ blocks, but these seem a but rough if I am honest, and it would would still seem to me that the rear shocks would need to be changed?? My second option is a suspension kit. Which I am leaning towards, but I am unsure if the control arm and anything else needs to be changed along the way?
Any advise would be much appreciated mate, new truck arriving in mid May and I want to get on top of it.
Cheers
Hey David,
You have to decide whether you want to keep it legal, or not. Getting the factory height is easy – any decent vehicle engineer will be able to look it up in 5 minutes. In fact, you can probably get it here – https://rvcs.infrastructure.gov.au/pls/wwws/pubrvcs.Notify_Search
I would lift the vehicle as little as needed to run the tyres you want. Bigger tyres aren’t always better though.
At the end of the day, build the vehicle to do what you need it to, and keep it legal if you can.
All the best
Aaron
hi,
ive been overwhelmed at the consideration of a 2 inch lift.
i have a 2004 kzn165. dual cab with a tub. i feel ike it could already be lifted but i cant tell. it doesnt say toyota, or anything for that matter, atleast not the torsion bars or leafs in the rear. kyb shocks in the rear thats it. after a little torsion cranking and a 30mm raise in the front its sitting at 580mm on all fours.
ive been asking every bloke selling theirs on gumtree and carsales, even on the facebook pages for measurements of either stock or 2inch lifted similar utes. from centre hubs to arches etc. one guy says his is 610 front and 600 mm rear. could it be mines already lifted( in the rear) by one inch..
noone knows anything, toyota, tough dog, opposite lock..
i dont want to drop 2k on an inch of lift. i believe i have decent clearance for bigger tyres. currently running 31 10.5 r15 and looks like it will easily fit 33’s. im only going to go 32s btw.. the way it sits looks just as lifted as the 2inch examples. using a keen eye and things like the side steps, or wheel arches themselves to gauge against top of rims. considering 15 v 16 inch rims.
can i just use extended shocks in my case? (being a supposed 1 inch less than a 2 inch lift) to help cusion the rouggher ride from torsion bars, and in general with the old looking shocks that could be replaced
sorry for the rant. any info would be more than helpful. thank you in advance
Dave
Hi Kirk,
Go for the right rated springs. If you are adding around 400kg plus gear, 500kg springs should be fine. A good suspension place should be able to weigh everything and put you on the right path.
All the best
Aaron
Hi looking at getting a 2 inch lift on my ln167 hilux, bought a canopy for it that weighs 400kg and I believe it still has it’s original stock suspension which is cactus, planning on adding fridge 12volt system , should I go with 500kg leaf springs any advice would be awesome. Cheers thanks
Hi Van,
I would suggest you add all your weight to the vehicle first, and then take it to a shop to get weighed, and get the right suspension. Fitting larger lifts to the front to counter the weight is not what you should be doing; you want the right weight rating.
The back will be higher, because that’s how they are engineered to handle best. It’s called rake, and you should keep it that way.
The higher you lift it, the more issues you will have; consider a mild life, with the right spring ratings and some quality tyres, and it will go where you need it to.
All the best
Aaron
im based in Sydney, i lifting the front higher because im planing to get bullbar winch and 2nd battery and not much load at the back. My hilux right now seems to look like the back is higher. Im planning on doing tracks and just want to make the car look abit tougher.
Hi Van,
Where are you based? Why would you lift the front and rear different amounts? What do you want the vehicle for? What’s the legalities where you are, and the consequences for an illegal vehicle?
All the best
Aaron
Hi, i got a 2010 toyota hilux sr5 and planning to do a 3 inch suspension front lift and 2 inch shackle for the back and putting on 33s. Whats your opinion on this set up?.
Hey Nazz,
Who did the body lift? You need to check the steering shaft. Likely you need to loosen it and allow it to slide (if there’s enough meat left).
It could be rubbing where it goes through the firewall too
All the best
Aaron
Hi mate I have a 98-01 ln167 with 2” body and 2” suspension lift and everything is all working fine but the steering it seems to feel like it’s grinding on something not sure if it’s the steering shaft coupling what are your thoughts.. thanks Nazz
Hi Ken,
You need to fit longer shock absorbers if you lift the vehicle, or you risk bottoming them out. If you’ve gone up in tyre size (as in diameter) you may not be able to lift it legally anyway.
If it does what you need it to now I wouldn’t change anything, but up to you
All the best
Aaron
Hi Aaron, I recently purchased a duel cab 2010 hilux 3.0L diesel with factory cabin, sidesteps and bulbar with winch. It has standard suspension, I have replaced the standard 15”wheels 30X9.5R15 tyres with 20” wheels and 265/50R20 tyres. I was thinking of doing a loft but unsure if which way to go, basically just want front to sit a bit higher to level out its stance also to improve overall looks. My thinking was that going with a 2” Bilstein front spring and 3” Bilstein rear spring and shocker lift could work well with improving overall appearance and stance, as I’m not really into serious 4 wheel off road driving and will only ever be carrying up to 100kg of camping or building supplies occasionally in the back could I get away with and save money by just doing the 2” Bilstein front strut/spring lift, then just fit 3” shackle lift on rear which would save on springs and shocks or would I need to increase spring size and shocker length? Thanks for all your help
Thanks for the quick reply Aaron, and I was thinking today about just keeping it as is and save to maybe get a loan and get a new toy, and I was reluctant on doing big modifications as I highway drive it almost daily for work.
I do believe it is a good bit of fun as it sits, as it does seem to go wherever I point it if I just lower tyre pressures and put a bit of weight in the back as it’s a single cab and just bounces around everywhere on the leafies.
And it has been a good workhorse for me, as I have put a full tonne of cement bags on the back before, and it really didn’t struggle much more than the usual N/A 2.8 sluggishness. Even up a decent hill could hold the 60kph speed limit in 3rd with a tonne on it. So the engine seems reliable and has good compression still.
And I did get the old girl for only $1500 And put $1000 or so into it for a new starter motor, starter solenoid, battery, clutch, engine mounts, as well as new filters all around, so I’m not worried about losing money on it.
Would you happen to know what other 4×4’s I could look into with maybe a bit more grunt, but with good reliability and utility, that won’t break the bank too much? And preferably not a single cab (just incase of a surprise baby in the future, etc.), A ute would be ideal for work, carrying loads and toolboxes etc. As a structural landscaper, though I have been looking at older 80 series, but will I find myself in the same situation not wanting to spend heaps on upgrades for an older vehicle?
I do want to get more into the whole 4wding scene, but don’t want to go deep into debt to get there. Again thanks for the quick reply and input, it truly is much appreciated.
Hey Tim,
Use the Hilux as it is for now, and see how it goes. I probably wouldn’t throw a heap of money at it, as you’ll likely upgrade in a couple of years anyway. As for what’s legal over there, you’ll have to speak to the transport authority. It will either be 50mm total lift, or 50mm suspension and 50mm bigger tyres.
They are pretty gutless, but super reliable and if in good condition you shouldn’t have any issues. Technically you should get it engineered, but a lot of people don’t bother. Again, its a lot of money to throw at an older vehicle, and you are probably better off holding off.
A coil conversion is doable if you have good DIY skills, but it needs engineering and will cost you a mint to get done by any workshop. Again, probably not worth it – just get some decent flexing springs if you need
All the best with your new toy
Aaron
Hi Aaron,
I got my hands on a cheap 1995 ln106r about a year ago, and she’s gone good so far, just slow, as the old N/A 2.8l Lux’s are.
I’ve been looking around a bit, and you seem to know your stuff, and was wondering what my limits are as far as lifting the old girl are, I do believe she’s stock as a rock. And just wanted to know what I could do in NSW without getting it engineered, I think it is on 28″ all terrains now but I’m unsure if that is stock size for a 1995 model ln106r, and I was looking at maybe a 1 inch suspension lift and 30″ tyres, as that would add to 50mm if 28″ is stock size. But I’m worried about highway driving etc. Because the poor old thing doesn’t like the highway speeds as is, without bigger tyres.
Any information you could give would be much appreciated.
I also spoke to someone about a turbo kit they could do for me which would help on the highway and uphill etc. But I’m unsure of the legality of that, as I’m on my green p’s currently. And would I need for it to be engineered after a turbo anyway? If so should I go 2 inch lift, bigger tyres, and turbo then go for engineering?
Or should I skip the turbo if that will be bad for the reliability of the engine, the Lux has almost 450,000 km’s on it, but I was told it is it’s second motor, so I’m not sure if it will handle the stress from a turbo or not.
I do intend on doing a fair bit of 4 wheeling, and I’ve been told mixed things about a coil conversion and the lot, so if you could just give me a list of what I can legally do to my princess that would be greatly appreciated, and I’ll honestly love you forever. Thanks.
Hey mate,
I guess you already know its probably illegal, but there are some nasty risks you take by doing this. Check this out – https://www.4wdingaustralia.com/4×4/is-your-4wd-legal/
Beyond that, body lifts are a pain in the backside as your bar work won’t line up, you may need gearbox shifter and steering wheel spline extensions and occasionally things in the engine bay too (radiator hoses etc).
I’ve had a body lift in a previous vehicle and would never get another one
Aaron
Hey mate just wondering if i have to watch for anything when installing a 2 inch body lift of my 2000 model hilux. it has a 2 inch suspension lift on it with 33 inch tyres.
Hey Scott,
The newer Hilux’s are a lot lower to the ground. In real soft sand a small lift is a good idea, but you can achieve this with slightly larger tyres as well. You could go with a mild lift and one size up on tyres; generally the most common way to get some clearance without making the vehicle illegal.
All the best
Aaron
Hi…. in 1980 our 1979 swb hilux 4wd went around Oz for a year, original except for remodeled rear springs to combat front spring issues…no problem!
Now I have a 2012 D 4wd extracab standard, alloy tray with camper box [300kg not loaded] and bull bar. I am not really happy about ground clearance and have put in an extra rear leaf to support rear load…seems to work… we are planning a good bit of desert/off road work…carrying up to 200l fuel, 100l water at times….not sure whether to lift or not. Never need to before….but….
Any ideas?
Hey David,
It will be on one of the hilux forums, or a facebook page. Failing that, give Toyota a call with your VIN and they should be able to tell you what it is. That, or perhaps Redbook will give you the factory roof height
Aaron
Hi. I have a LN106, 94 live axel. does anyone know the standard height and what a 50mm suspension lift height is?? In Victoria they are having a crackdown and have to be careful. Thx
Good to hear mate. OME is top quality stuff. It will keep you happy for many years! The exhaust should have given it a bit of extra power and economy too. Happy 4WDing!
Hi Aaron yes its OME this is third OME kit i have put on different toyota’s i have had, totally agree these are the two best and first thing that needs to be done for outback adventurers, the Lux drives and handles sooo much better, i have also put a 3inch stainless exhaust and long range tank on.
Is it OME suspension? Aftermarket suspension and some decent tyres are the two best modifications you can make to a 4WD – I bet you will be pleased with the results.
Hi all i have a 2009 LUX with ARB complete sus upgrade and have just now put 265/75/16’s on it wow what a difference, drives and feels like a new car, Taking the beast out today as we have had rain and want to break the tyres in, correct tyre pressure of course.
not really just wanted to go a bigger tyre for more clearance and better for offroad so wat options do I have if I wound my bars up would they fit then or do I just stay the 31s I have a set of 15×7 and a set of 15×8 offset-20 just not sure how to go about it wanting to lift it at a later date but didn’t want to have to buy 2 set of tyres if I don’t have 2
Hey Dylan,
If you measure from the centre of your hub outwards half of 32″ towards the guards at the front you will get a reasonable idea of how close it will be. If you have no lift at all, I’d say you would be pushing to fit them – the standard tyres are 29″, no?
If they don’t fit, you would have to go with a lift kit, which is more money. Is there a reason why you need 32×11.5’s?
Aaron
Hi arron the offset for the rim is -20 the rims I have are 15×8 and wanted to go a 32×11.5 wat issue will I have and will it be a easy fix
Hi Dylan,
What is the standard offset for these? I know the 1990 – 1997 offset is -22mm. The further offset you go the harder it will be to fit the tyres when you turn, but you need enough to clear the brake calipers. I doubt you will have any issues on the rear; it will be the front that will cause you issues. Can you get access to a rim and tyre and try it on?
Aaron
hey guys I have a 1998 hilux ln167r all standed tray bak and was wondering would I be able to fit 32×11.5 all terrains on with a -20 offset I have looked around everywhere but cant get a answer anny help would be much appreciated cheers
G’day Abz,
The LN106R is a great vehicle. If it were me, I’d get a good set of all terrain or mud terrain 31″ x 10.5″ tyres. These are the standard for this model Hilux, and will leave you with better clearance than a Patrol or Land Cruiser on 33″ tyres. On this particular vehicle, I wouldn’t bother lifting it unless you really need to fit larger tyres. Alternatively, you could go up to 33 x 12.5″ tyres, but you will need a 2 inch body lift (or you can get a 2″ suspension lift which could do the job).
Best of luck mate
Aaron
Hey mate , I’m looking to buy a hilux LN106R 1997 and it needs new tyres for a roadworthy now I would like to fit big tyres on it as I might aswell since that was my plan for the future I just don’t know what tyres would be right for it I don’t plan to do any serious four wheel driving maybe just lightly for now , I would just like it to look good with and I’m
Hoping the tyres would lift the vehicle to a reasonable height as you can see I’m really illiterate with the whole idea and need help I was wondering what tyres would suit it best and would I need a lift kit at all ? As I plan to get a whole new custom tray fit in is that going to be a problem and I might even possibly want to change the front bar in the near future I would like to know what’s best to do
Cheers Abz .
Hi Alex,
Double check the size you want to run – 17 inch might be the rim size. You would most likely be looking into 31, 32 or 33 inch tyres (265/275/285). If you do a suspension lift over 2 inch, you will likely need to extend the brake lines, as you are increasing the length they have to travel
Aaron
Hi I’m looking at buying a hilux xtra cab sr and would just like to know what size lift kit I need to run 17 inch all terrains. Also I heard that if you lift it that much you may need to do something with your brake lines. Is this true?
Thanks heaps Aaron.
I can shop confidently now.
G’day Ben,
As long as the lift is under 2 inch (and the tyres are factory size) you wont need an engineers certificate. I’d almost bet even if the vehicle is over the 50mm in my previous reply, you won’t get an engineers certificate. Most people don’t know about what is legal and what isn’t, and those that do don’t seem to care!
In regards to the motors, untouched motors are usually set up the best, but there is something nice about a recently rebuilt motor. My 80 series had it’s motor rebuilt about 70k before I bought it, and I am very happy with it. High mileage is not necessarily a bad thing; it all comes down to service history and the way the car has been used. A farm vehicle that has done 80,000km will likely be in worse shape than a sales rep’s Hilux that has done 250,000 highway kilometers!
Aaron
Thanks Aaron,
Yeah I want to get an extra cab and I’m not too fazed whether it has a lift kit or not but it’s good to know now to ask for an engineer certificates if it does.
Also, on the diesels, should I be wary of vehicles that have recond motors and should I be worried about high mileage?
Thanks again.
Hi Ben,
The roof height of a four wheel drive is allowed to go up 50mm without an engineers certificate. You are only allowed to put 50mm bigger tyres on your vehicle (which would lift it 25mm). Legally then, all you can do is a 2 inch lift, or fit bigger tyres with a 1″ lift.
A huge number of four wheel drives on the road in WA are illegal, and never get picked up. However, if they are involved in an accident, they can be liable for all costs (including medical), and it may even lead to disciplinary action by the law. I’d say to be safe, get it engineered if you want to go over 50mm, or don’t go over it!
As for the models, your price range will dictate what you get. If you want to do serious four wheel driving down the track, the 2.8 diesel (1990 – 1997) will be the best bet, with an aftermarket turbo. They are slow in factory form, but very economical and even more reliable. Fitting an aftermarket turbo properly will improve the power by about 50% and give you similar fuel economy.
Other than that, you could get a 3 litre turbo diesel (which are the newer Hilux’s) and are also good engines. However, post 1997 Hilux’s (with exception to extra cabs, as they are all IFS) are independent front suspension. This will be the limiting factor if you want to do serious four wheel driving, but they are very capable vehicles all the same
Best of luck mate; Hilux’s are awesome
Aaron
Hi Aaron,
I am going to be looking at buying a Hilux in the next few weeks. Just wanted to know what you think is the best model hilux and engine.
It’ll be mainly used for the daily commute, but also a bit of a weekend warrior, carting dirt bikes and going down south surfing that requires some 4wding.
Probably looking around the $10-15k range.
Also, I’ve seen a lot have lift kits. Mostly just the 2″. Do they need to come with certs?
Cheers
Ben
G’day Aidan,
I haven’t got much experience with the new Hilux’s. What size tyres do they run from factory? I would say the rear would probably clear (just) with a 2″ lift, but the front could be interesting. You will probably have to remove the mud guards. Look into a body lift for that specific model; there may be a fair bit of work involved, and all of your bar work will need lifting too. Maybe chopping the front guards is more economical?
Aaron
Hey mate,
I’m hoping for some advice on how much lift I would need to fit 33×10.5’s on my 2003 KZN165R single cab.
I think 2″ suspension and 2″ body would be enough but I really have no idea.
Appreciate any help.
Hey mate,
All I did on mine was loosen the steering shaft and tighten it back up after it had slid out a bit, and moved the radiator hoses a bit. I’ve heard of people having to bend their gear levers a bit, but never had to do that. Best of luck.
Aaron
Hey thanks Arron . Yeah I am using the same rims. I think I ll just invest in a 2inch body lift.
This should solve my problem. Is there much concern I need to be aware of ( fuel line, radiator hose, ect…). Again your advice is appreciated.
Thanks kawana
Hi Kawana,
Did you fit them with the same rims? If not, maybe the offset is different. Otherwise, measure the overall diameter of the tyres and see what the difference is. There aren’t too many options to solve it; either lift the vehicle, change the offset of the rims, remove the mud guard, knock the panels in a bit with a rubber mallet or chop the guards.
Aaron
Hi I have a 97 Toyota surf. I have 265/75R16 coppers A/T on at the mo.
And are wanting to put the same size muddies on. However when I tried
Fitting them they rubbed quiet bad on the inside the rear of the front
Of the front guard. What advice could you provide to solve this?
Much appreciated. Kawana
Hi Tris,
Extended shackles lift the chassis and the body up, but they are actually illegal for on road use. However, a lot of people still run them. Extended shocks may help, but it will come down to whether you are maxing the shocks out on flex anyway. You can test this later down the track. You may find if the suspension is totally stuffed anyway, that new springs would lift the vehicle enough to clear 32×11.5’s anyway.
Best of luck
Aaron
Hi, I have a 97 ln106 leaf all-round, I’m thinking of going the cheep extended shackle option to fit 32×11.5s (they just rub on full lock) and was just wondering if there’s anything else I need to do/alter if I fitted a simple 2″ shackle lift, also if I did that would fitting extended shocks be worth it. Cheers.
Hi Blake,
Why do you want a 4″ lift? If you want to fit bigger tyres, a body lift, guard chop or moving the front diff forward would be the best option. I haven’t come across any tail shaft spacer info mate; try the 4WD action forum.
Best of luck
Aaron
G’day,
I have a 91 hilux ln106 with a 4″ lift was just wondering what size
tail shaft spacer I would use?
Cheers
Blake
G’day Hardy,
In Perth we have a huge number of vehicles that are illegal. The bigger ones get yellow stickered from time to time, but there are hundreds that are driven every day with no issues. The bigger problem though, is if you have an accident and your insurance company finds out the vehicle was illegal. They can cancel your policy and deny the claim, which could be very expensive if you have just cleaned up a nice Mercedes Benz (and let’s not forget medical costs too!).
I don’t know exactly what the law is in Victoria in terms of getting the car engineered, but Hilux’s are known as ‘Rollux’s’ for good reason! If you are going to lift it, look at getting more offset rims (although this may make your scrubbing worse at the front).
If you can fit 33’s, get a rear locker and you will be able to take the vehicle anywhere; they are unstoppable. Better yet, fit an eBay turbo, get the pipes made up for around $500 and you will get about 60% power increase and better economy.
Best of luck mate
Aaron
Thanks for your response.
I’ve seen GU Patrol’s with easy 3 inch + lifts, and just then on the freeway coming home I saw a GQ patrol that looked like it was having a hard time staying in a straight line due to how high it was.
Police in Vic always seem interested in big snails under the hood on import cars, how loud your car is, and how low it is, especially given the massive ‘hoon’ emphasis of the Road authorities, such as VicRoads, EPA, and of course the Traffic management unit branch of VicPol over the past decade and more.
A lifted fourby will be illegal, but I don’t think it would cop anywhere near the amount of negative attention that a fast import would.
The point of a 3 inch lift for me would be more flex, softer shocks/springs creating a smoother ride, and wearing 33’s. although I think just by moving th diff forward I would be able to wear 33’s.
Of course the most important aspect I would be interested in learning about is the difference in off road capability of a 3 inch lift. I have heard some saying it made it much better off road, whilst you say centre of gravity is an important factor.
Personally my lux goes very well off road and I guess why fix something when it is not broken..
Keep bush bashing boys
G’day Hardy,
How flat are your leaf springs? My Hilux was running 33×12.5″ tyres with very flat leaf’s, and only a 2 inch body lift. Admittedly, they did scrub a bit on full lock and when you were turning and flexing, but not too bad. The problem with just a suspension lift is that when the springs compress, they can go up just as far as they would have without the lift. A body lift physically lifts the body away from the chassis and wheels, thus giving more clearance. This is why a hilux with a 2 inch body lift will have less problems with scrubbing than one with just a 2 inch suspension lift.
A couple of other things to note; you can only lift your vehicle 50mm (IE 2″ suspension lift, or 1″ tyres and 1″ lift) and your tyres are only meant to go up 50mm too.
33’s on a Hilux without an engineers certificate will be illegal, and with a 3″ lift it will be very obviously illegal (Think police problems!). In terms of what modification you do first, just make sure you consider the weight of the bull bar. Realistically it doesn’t make any difference.
Personally, I would move the front differential forward first, and measure how it sits. I wouldn’t be surprised if you could fit 33×12.5″ tyres with normal heigh suspension!
Aaron
G’day Aaron,
I’ve owned an ’89 single cab ln106 for nearly three years – bought dead stock. Very trusty vehicle.
Soon after I got it I started running 31’s All Terrain’s, no lift – but Old Man Emu shocks and bushes, (kept the leafs stock) and it goes very, very well off road. Basically everywhere I want it to, I think it has a lot to do with approach angles, and lines as you also said.
I am looking at getting a 3 inch EFS ‘comfort’ lift kit, including moving the front diff forward (1 inch I believe) so that I can run 33’s in the future.
I also am looking at getting a bullbar to mount my spotlights on and basically my question to you is this:
Which modification should I do first? What difference would it make fitting a 3 inch lift kit first then bulbar?? As I was thinking of fitting the lift first then bullbar.
Appreciate your input.
Hi Jim,
If you are after flex, then your shock absorbers will limit it anyway; you really need to change them too. I have a feeling that extended shackles are illegal, but I am not 100% sure on that. The cheapest lift would be a 2″ body lift; you can get the blocks and bolts for around $200 and then a few hours to raise it and you are done. The steering shaft needs to be undone and re-tightened, the radiator hoses may need the same and occasionally the gearstick needs a small bend at the bottom. Again, this is not legal without an engineers certificate.
You could go a straight 2″ suspension lift, but then you aren’t legally allowed to fit anything larger than 31″ tyres. You just can’t win with the law mate!
Aaron
Hey Adam,
Does it have a lift at all? I would say without a 2″ body lift or suspension lift it will likely scrub a bit. Fit the lift kit and you won’t have any issues though!
Aaron
G’day bloke,
I have a ’94 LN106r with solid axels front and back. I have heard of putting IFS hilux rear springs in the rear with extended shackles for a cheap 2″ lift in the back. I would then just buy a new set of 2″ lifted springs for the front.
Have you heard of this being done before and what are the good and bad points of this, also what are the legalities and effects of extended shackles?
Cheers mate
Hi, I have a 1990 4 door hilux. Looking at getting 33 inch wheels. They will only be 10.5 inch wide. Will I need to do any mods to fit? Prefer not to lift it up… Any help would be good!
Hi Rob,
What shock absorbers has it got? If you look carefully you might see some brand names – I’d say it’s been lifted previously.
Aaron
Hi, I have a 90 model Ln106. I saw somewhere that the std height for it is 550mm. That’s centre of hub to the rim of the gaurd. My springs are pretty flat and it measures at 590mm. Something just doesn’t add up when I have flat springs
Hi Benny,
If it is a 98, then it must be independent front suspension? Measure what size offset rims you have, and find out if changing that will make it clear any better. I don’t have too much knowledge about body lifts on IFS vehicles.
In the solid axles, if you have standard height suspension (that hasn’t sagged) a 2 inch body lift will make the tyres clear almost perfectly. I think the IFS ones are a bit lower at the front – look at using a rubber mallet to knock the guards in a bit where it rubs if possible.
Best of luck mate
Aaron
Hi mate love the site! Full of good info.. I have a 98 hilux and just got 33 x 12.5 tires for it and they scrub on the inner guards, I have purchased a 2″ body lift kit but just want to get some advice on what other mods I will have to do before I go ahead? Cheers!
G’day Mick,
It really depends on the model hilux you get. If it is a solid axle front and rear they are pretty simple, but you are restricted to a 2 inch kit anyway, according to the law. Even then, you need to get it engineered to be totally legal. From there, you can do a suspension lift on top if you want to go higher, but again it will need to be engineered. If you have an accident and your vehicle isn’t roadworthy you can end up in all sorts of trouble. My old Hilux had 33″ tyres and just a 2 inch body lift. I think it looked great, and wasn’t that over the top.
As for getting a kit, I would buy one off eBay. Ally blocks are the go, and you can’t really go wrong with the bolts providing they are high tensile. I got a company north of the river to do mine, for about $500 but you can easily do it yourself. Just check radiator hoses, fan shrouds, the gear lever and the steering column.
Take it easy mate
Aaron
Hi mate,
You are by far the best source of information I can find on doing body lifts on a Hilux 🙂
I am a personal trainer, running some bootcamps around the place and I am looking into buying a hilux, and getting a 2-4 inch lift on it. It is not so much for the load I would be carrying, wouldnt be anything a normal unmodified hilux couldn’t handle, but more for it to look alot more aesthetically pleasing and tough if you know what I mean (First impressions are important for PTs 🙂 )
Just wondering about your suggestions on where to start looking for a kit, and what type of kit to get for looks over performance?
Thanks
Mick
Hi Andrew,
I’m not really sure what you are asking. In most IFS vehicles a 2″ lift is as far as you can go without doing other modifications as your cv’s sit at too much of an angle. Are you sure they are only 225’s – that seems very small
Aaron
Hi there. I have a 04 ifs 3lt td dual cab. My front suspension has gone soft and was lookinh at Rancho Rs5000 shocks for the front with a 2″ lify as i am a weekrnd warrior haha i run 225 7516 yoko ats no drama. I was wondeeing i am not sure if the vehicle is lifted would 2″ in the front matter or would i need rearexyended dhackles also?
G’day Aaron,
I haven’t got much experience with the newer Hilux’s, but I doubt just a 2 inch body lift would allow you to run 33’s. The engineers that you need to use can be found on the department of transport’s website (http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/LBU_VS_IB_102.pdf). If you lift the vehicle over 50mm then you need to do a lane change test, which is anywhere between 400 – $1000, plus engineers fees etc. Have a look on newhilux.net.
Best of luck mate
Aaron
Hi there,
I was looking at getting a 2inch body lift so I can run 33’s on my 2004 hilux. Do you know how I go about getting an engineering certificate to make it legal? Also would you know how much money aprox I would be looking at including the other mods bar work, fuel lines, ect..
Aaron
Hi Garrett,
Have a good think about this – it’s a pretty major change. You are meant to get an engineers certificate (which means running it over the pits) for a body lift (or any other modification that raised the height of your vehicle more than 50mm). Is your vehicle IFS or solid front axle?
Body lifts are cheap and simple, but they effect a number of things that you might not think about. If you have any bar work then this will stay in it’s current position. This is primarily a problem if you have a bull bar. Gearsticks sometimes need to be bent, and the radiator hoses might need to be lengthened.
My Hilux runs 33×12.5″ tyres with a 2 inch body lift and old suspension, but the wheels do scrub a fair bit on full lock (especially when four wheel driving). You can cut the guards away, but I don’t want to do this. What width tyre are you going for? 33’s will also drop your power and economy by a reasonable amount. Alternatively, you could move the diff forward 50mm and you won’t have any rubbing issues.
Best of luck
Aaron
Hey mate, Im looking at getting 33’s on my 95 hilux. Would a 2″ body lift be the best option ?
G’day Stephan,
Is it solid axle at the front? The cheapest method would be a body lift, or extended shackles. A body lift may cause issues if you have any bar work though.
Aaron
Hi bro, great comments, I’m from Jamaica in the Caribbean and owns a 1996 hilux 2.5 4wd double cab. I would love your advice on this one.
I am presently running stock rims and tyres 265 /16. I would loved to add a 2″ lift kit to my hilux, could you give me your advice plus the cheapest method.
I don’t really do much off roading but want to be more obvious on the road.
Cheers
Hi Simon,
I would have thought you could get Chromolly CV’s, but I can’t seem to find anyone that supplies them. Are you a member on http://www.newhilux.net/? They have some good information that may be helpful. Otherwise, perhaps send an email to Locktup to see if they can recommend anything.
Best of luck
Aaron
Hi Aaron, hoping you may be able to direct me. I am in Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea so I am unaffected by Australian Laws.
I am looking for heavy duty CV replacements for my 2010 Hulux. I have a 4″ Lift Kit as well as the snake racing dropdown diff kit, but I am still destroying outer CV’s.
Is ther a stronger CV that I can buy from somwhere ? and if so, do you know where. Your thoughts would be much appreciated.
Simon
G’day Gazza,
It’s not uncommon for vehicles with 4 inch plus kits to handle poorly on the road if the lift hasn’t been done correctly. To do it properly, you need to adjust the angle of your drive line (in various locations) which tends to cost big dollars. To do a 5 inch plus lift correctly you would be looking at around $3500 – $6000 for most four wheel drives. Even if it is safe to drive, it is illegal and if you are involved in an accident you have to pay the money for all repairs, regardless. For most four wheel driving in Australia a 2″ lift and one size bigger tyres is enough, and that is basically all that is legal anyway.
I’d be pulling the lift out, or getting a suspension shop to fix it properly and then get it engineered (which you might not be able to do, and is also big bucks).
Best of luck
Aaron
hi. we have a 92 LN130. surf. its been body lifted 2″, and susp, lifted about 5 or 6 inchs, we didnt do the job, but we just put 35×12.5 inch tyres, And when driving it down the road its just all over the place. to unsafe to drive, what could it be.??
G’day Josh,
I don’t know too much about the newer Hilux’s. However, fitting 35’s on a vehicle with IFS is not a good idea without some decent additional modifications. You tend to put too much stress on the CV’s with the increased angle after fitting a lift. I doubt very much you would fit 35’s (and that width) with even a 4 inch lift, unless you cut the guards. With such a big lift you will be up for some serious money to do it properly as drive line angles will need to be corrected. Why do you want 13.5″ tyres? I’d go 11.5 at the most for that sort of vehicle. The extra width does nothing for four wheel drive capability, and it will only rub on your steering arms and inner guards.
35’s on a Hilux gives you similar clearance to 37’s on a Land Cruiser or Patrol, because of the diff sizes. The maximum tyre size I would fit to that sort of hilux would be 33’s. 35’s will chew the fuel, and you will lose quite a bit of power too (unless you get it re geared). What do you want the Hilux to do? Are you looking at rock crawling and serious four wheel driving, or more of a tourer/ beach driving vehicle?
Have a think about legalities too – if your four wheel drive is illegal you are liable in the case of an accident, whether you have insurance or not. Run into a nice Mercedes and you will have a big loan for the rest of your life. In my opinion, it’s just not worth it. Have a read of 4WD Insurance. I’ve learnt over the years that a four wheel drive with some slightly bigger tyres, lockers, a decent driver and a small lift will go virtually anywhere you want it to. Keep that centre of gravity down! The smaller the lift the better.
Have a think about what you really want, and feel free to leave any more questions you have
Aaron
Hey mate
sounds like you know what ya on about. Have a 03 dual cab hilux want to fit 35″ 13.5″ wide. can I get away with 2″ lift or will it have to be 3″.
G’day mate,
Are you looking at a petrol or diesel? I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t be a 2.1 litre – maybe a 2.7 or 3.0. In terms of clearance, the older Hilux’s have some of the biggest compared to other four wheel drives. You would get away with no lift, and some decent all terrain tyres. I don’t believe in lifting a vehicle unless you need to. If it were me I would drive it and see how it goes, and then lift it if you need to. You would be looking at around $300 per tyre, and then around $1000 for a lift, depending on what you do.
If you aren’t going to be using it all the time, I wouldn’t worry so much about the age of it, but rather the condition of the vehicle. Take a look at the 4×4 Forum list I made up – plenty of good information in them that will help make your decision a lot easier!
Aaron
Thank you for the fast response mate. Will not be using it everyday just when we go out fishing or the odd chore. I find that the 2000 models are alot cheaper then the more recent versions and as I’m only 23 it helps on the insurance cost on my other two cars. The engine is a 2.1 l that’s all I know at this point in time. It will have to be a dual cab because of the kids and mates. I would be getting the lift and tyres pretty much just for the clearance might be some rocks in the way of a great fishing location. Could you give me some sort of price for a professionally fitted lift and tyres?
Thanks once again mate
G’day Jessy,
It really comes down to what you want to spend, and what you want the vehicle to do. Is it going to be a daily driver? Why are you set on a 2000 model one? All of the post 1997 Hilux’s are independent front suspension, meaning you are limited to around a 2″ lift and some slightly larger tyres. Honestly though, a Hilux with no modifications will handle the beach and dunes with no worries at all. Do you need a dual cab? If not, a Land Cruiser ute is another good option – they are great vehicles. Personally I wouldn’t spend any more than required, but it depends on your situation.
As for the winch, I wouldn’t bother if its just sand driving. Buy yourself a snatch strap, read my post on Beach Driving, get a set of Maxtrax and you won’t ever have a drama. Hilux’s are pretty decent on the beach, but it does come down to the engine you choose.
Feel free to provide some more information – I don’t mind replying
Aaron
Hey mate,
I am about to buy my first hilux probably be a 2000 model not sure which one could you possibly give me some advice on lift and tyres. Me and my mates go beach fishing at least twice a week and sick of carrying the gear everywhere we go, my lancer just doesn’t cut the sand. So what would you recommend for sand dunes and loose sand? And also do you think I should get a winch for the front just in case.
If you need anymore explanation just ask mate.
Cheers
Hi Wozza,
I don’t know much about the newer hilux’s, but I will give it a go. The tyres you have running at the moment are almost 33″, which is huge for that size hilux. What width are they, as this will make the most difference to how much they rub. Do you have a lift kit fitted at the moment? You can have a look at the way your bull bar mounts on. It’s not unlikely to be a big job modifying it to suit a body lift, which could be costly if you have to outsource it. A suspension lift will take the tyres away from the guards when you are on level ground, but the moment you flex the springs they are likely to rub again. You could look at cutting the guards, but its a job I’d rather avoid. Find out what offset rims you have – if you can get rims that stick out further (more negatively offset), then the tyres won’t rub as bad, and you also improve the centre of gravity. I will also quickly mention that with IFS, you may have issues lifting it even 2″, let alone 3″. It would pay to thoroughly research the lift, as you may have to change other parts of the drive line to make them line up correctly (and this is big bucks). As for the centre of gravity, I believe the newer hilux’s are wider and are more stable. However, the general rule is that if you go up you should go out (by getting wider tyres and greater offset rims). Keep it as low as you can though, especially if you are doing serious four wheel driving. I’d recommend signing up to http://www.newhilux.net/ and seeing what the members have done there – its the best way to leverage people’s knowledge.
I would recommend you think about the legalities of what you want too – running 33’s on a new hilux would be illegal (let alone a lift), meaning you are liable in the event of an accident, unfortunately.
Hopefully I have been of some help, and let me know how you go
Aaron
Hey mate, the only person who explains it all, including the bull bar and body lift.
Bro I have a 06 sr5 and got 285/65/18…….they are pretty solid and my mates call them bobcat Tyres.
They fit under, just, and lightly scrub on the first sign of turning on the inside guard. I have a ARB bull bar so the front of the front guard is o.k.
Question- I know now embody lift would look strange cause of the bull bar and would have to modify it, so I am thinking a 2 inch suspension lift may not be enough, so a 3 inch is buzzing in my head. I red your advice on centre of gravity and the other things, but what are your recommendation on what I should do. Thanks bro
G’day Andy,
What are you doing the lift for? Unless you have a good reason to lift the vehicle, I wouldn’t do it. If it is to fit larger tyres then a body lift is the better way to go. However, if you have bar work that attaches to the chassis (bull bar, side steps or rear bar) then you will most likely have to modify them, and this can be very time consuming.
Hiluxes are known for their ability to roll very easily, so keeping the centre of gravity as low as possible is always a good idea. My suggestion is to lift it only as much as you need to. Also, take a look into the legalities of lifting your Hilux too.
A lot of people prefer to move the front differential forward 35mm, which you can do without much work. This should allow for 33″ tyres to run without any lift, but it does depend on the guards and offset rims that you are running.
You will pay more for a suspension lift, but if you need new suspension it’s not necessarily a bad decision. Have a think about what you really want from the vehicle, and then modify it accordingly. Hopefully I have been a bit of a help. If not, ask some more questions and we will go from there. I’d also suggest having a look on the 4×4 forums for what other people have done as there is lots of valuable information
Have a good one
Aaron
Hi
Im thinking of getting a 2″ suspension lift or the body lift for my 97 hilux 2.4l 22r but still unsure which one to get. I see you have the 2″ body lift and just wondered how that is working out for you and whether you would go for Suspension lift or body?
You mentioned in your text
“Another popular combination is a 2” body lift and 2” suspension lift, but in my opinion this is unnecessary in many cases.”
why do you think this is unnecessary?
Thanks
Hi Avin,
I am sorry to hear the lift kit isn’t doing what you want. What model hilux is it? My first suggestion would be to throw some weight in the back of the vehicle, and see if that fixes the problem. It’s likely the springs are too tense and aren’t flexing much when you go over bumps. Your shock absorbers could be too big, but that is less likely. Can you take it back and tell them you aren’t happy?
Let me know how you go
Aaron
Hi,
I purchased a 2″Lift Kit from Australia Ultimate Suspension and was told this a height comfort kit. I have no weight in front or back, but i experience a rougher ride than the original suspension. Can you offer any advice?
Thanks
Avin